How To Develop Youth In FM 2014

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Hey guys and welcome to this guide on how to develop youth in FM 2014. I am not actually the author of this piece, so let me introduce you to Wayne Boon. For some time now Wayne has provided me with future screenshots from his saves in FM 2014, for the purpose of our player profiles on the Scouting Network. Wayne has developed some insane wonderkids and we’ve had an influx of the same question from many, many readers, ‘how do you develop youth in FM 2014‘.

Seen as this question was directed at Wayne himself, I’ve asked him to compose an FM 2014 guide on how to develop youth. Wayne covers every aspect of developing youth and does it all from his own perspective. Having seen some of the players he developed like Adam Campbell (who I seriously recommend you look at on the Scouting Network) I think I myself will be learning a thing or two from Wayne’s practices. Over to Wayne…

How To Develop Youth In FM 2014 – Intro

Hey all, my name is Wayne and I’ve been an avid player of FM ever since i was introduced to the game by a friend in 2011 and I’ve found this site immensely helpful in finding the best wonderkids for the game. Since I’ve been asked to write up a simple guide on how to develop youth in FM 2014 I’m giving it a shot.

kid playing footballFrom my experience with the game, the key pointers to follow when developing youngsters are of course finding the correct wonderkids, game-time, coaching, growth and patience. However, do note that you may face some difficulties in ticking all the boxes depending on the club and league you are managing in.  I feel that I usually achieve maximum growth with youngsters when starting out in the championship as they are able to start more games without affecting results too much. Ideally, I would like to start in League One but attracting wonderkids to championship clubs while fending off interest from larger clubs is already a feat in itself, and most 4-5 star coaches usually shun lower tier clubs until they achieve a higher status.

On the flip side, managing mid-high tier clubs such as Newcastle and Tottenham allows you to land wonderkids and coaches fairly easily, but in the premiership playing your best players is the only way to guarantee the best results. The only way to overcome this would be to choose an elite team, where the quality of the players should allow you to constantly accommodate a few youngsters and attract the best coaches, but then again, where’s the fun in that, right?

How To Develop Youth In FM 2014 – Getting The Right Wonderkids

Just refer to the huge list of players on the Scouting Network! As I like to start with Championship clubs, I just go for the cheapest available and roll from there. If you want to start from the Championship, it is always better to sell your ageing players that are still worth good money to fund your influx of new blood. Do not worry as the championship is quite easy to navigate even when using wonderkids. Just make sure not to end up in a situation where players in key positions are unfilled because you sold that last defender to fund the purchase of your fifth young striker (I tend to face this problem all too often).

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How To Develop Youth In FM 2014 – Game Time

One advantage when managing in the Championship is that the league consists of more clubs (at least for England), and this means more experience for your fledglings. Do try to let your wonderkid play in as many games as possible, preferably first team football, but substitute appearances work too. An important point to note here is that youngsters tire more easily, and be sure to give them a break if they start getting jaded as their stats might actually decrease.

If you ply your trade in the Premiership or other first tier leagues where results matter more, it might be harder to spare games for your wonderkids and this is where friendly matches come into play. During the pre season be sure to arrange as many friendlies as possible as it not only helps your youngsters progress, it also lets the team regain their fitness for the upcoming season. Some may think U21 leagues are good enough but human management is always the best (this applies to pre-season friendlies as well. The AI does a bad job with arranging matches in my opinion so you might want to take things into your own hands).sub board

Lastly, while loaning players out to get game time might be a good idea, be sure that your youngster is at least a first team regular at the other club and that he is used in the preferred position. Thankfully, FM14 comes with a feature to let you know if the other managers are doing your player more harm than good. Note that players can only be recalled during a transfer window and you have to (and should in most loan circumstances) insert a recall clause in the loanee’s contract.

How To Develop Youth In FM 2014 – Coaching

As most of you should know by now, the higher the star rating for coaches the better. In a nutshell, simply assign the coach with he highest star rating for the specific category. The main issue with coaching that I would like to address is the fact that lower tier clubs have limited resources (specifically low staff wages and numbers) and most top class coaches shun these clubs. When managing a new club for the first time, the first thing you should do is take a look at the club structure. Never settle for the initial coaches, sometimes including your assistant manager as they tend to be (mostly) junk.

For some reason, many clubs have an excess of physios, fitness coaches and U21 coaches. All these excess numbers take up valuable resources that could be better allocated. Always aim for a minimum of a 3 star rating in every category (although I sometimes make do with 2.5). After letting your excess staff coachingleave on mutual terminations, try to recruit a decent backroom of your own. It takes some trial and error on your part, but there are a few excellent coaches that are willing to join lower teams on minimal wage, such as Marcel Lucassen (ball ctrl), Chico Fraga (attacking) and Paul Winsper (fitness.) Some of these coaches are good enough to coach in 2 or more categories while maintaining a 2.5-3 star rating. Do play around with the assignments a bit for the best results. Your ultimate goal is to have a 4-5 star rating across the board, which should be easily achieved upon promotion.

Lastly, it is worth your while to scroll through your players’ training status every few weeks. Players will mostly be pleased/happy or content with their training, however if one or two players are unhappy with their training schedule, then reduce their workload to average or light as it affects their rate of growth. If the unhappiness is still there a few weeks after you have lightened their workload it means they have a negative approach towards training and it might be time to warn the player through a private chat.

How To Develop Youth In FM 2014 – Tutoring

Another aspect of coaching that is overlooked by many is player tutoring. A general rule of thumb is that the better the personality and the higher the determination of the youngster, the faster he will progress. A tutee will always take on his tutor’s personality, some preferred moves and have an increase determination if the tutor’s determination is higher than the tutee when you choose the ‘improve his game’ option, and the tutee likes the tutor. Good traits to take on are model professional, determined etc. However, determination is always more important. If you choose off pitch development the tutee will only experience an increase in determination. Note that the tutor’s squad status must match or be higher than the tutee for the tutoring option to appear. Hence, if you have resources to spare it may be beneficial to sign those ageing players with insane mental stats on a short term contract to tutor your youngsters. NEVER allow a player with lower determination to coach a tutee with higher determination as the tutee will experience a drastic drop in determination (made this mistake once and had to release the tutor on a free transfer to stop the tutoring).

How To Develop Youth In FM 2014 – Player Growth/Patience

So, you have given him 45 games per season, hired the best coaches, gotten Messi to tutor him, and the kid you paid £25 million for shows no signs of improvement. Do not fret, at least not yet. Besides determination and personality, potential ability is another key factor. It should be noted that no two games of FM are ever alike. Every wonderkid, bar some well established ones, has a different potential ability that determines how far he can go in the game. The same player that has ripped apart defences in your previous save may reach his limit as an average Joe in your next one.

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That aside, some players simply develop slower than others and while they may not show potential early on, there might just be a world beater waiting to emerge the following season. It might be as late as 21-23 years old before they show signs of progression so be patient and rely on your scouts for advice. Finally, if the player is going through a long stretch with no marked improvement, you might want to try reprimanding him via private chat. If the player reacts positively then all is well, however if he reacts negatively, you might have to deal with an unhappy player in the squad for some time.

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Abdirisaq Osman
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Abdirisaq Osman
December 29, 2013 09:06

Great guide however how do mental attributes develop? Do they get them through experience or training or a mixture? I have never understood this despite great saves of loads of amazing regens. Also, not too much competition is good because it makes them scared of their positon in the team unless they have a very good personality

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Patrick Elliott
December 29, 2013 12:17

Absolute cracking guide Darren, I will be definitely using it at some point.

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jimtomo
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jimtomo
December 29, 2013 16:05

(im playing as arsenal) if you have a good young player, is it more benificial to loan them out (to get first team expieriance) or to keep them with your coaching staff and tutor them (top class coaches). even if it to say a league 1 club? I have started to coach and tutor my young players for the first half of the season, then loan them out for the second half.

Jon
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Jon
December 30, 2013 14:10

Darren I’ve sent you a email could you reply plz

Avery (@Avery78)
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January 1, 2014 00:12

First, great guide, appreciate the effort and insights :)
So I have Éder Álvarez Balanta at Arsenal he is “Ambitious” and for 2 seasons now he has refused to be mentored by anyone. It’s getting kind of frustrating. He isn’t even open to the idea from folks like
Javier Mascherano / Carles Puyol / Marcelo / Thomas Vermaelen / Xabi Alonso.

Is there any tricks with the approach to take eg cautious / assertive?

Otherwise… seeing some great improvements all over the squad even with the old fogies :)

Adam Furnival
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January 1, 2014 17:23

Hey guys always useful info but the one problem which i always battle with whether or not send players on loan or to wait for them to qualify as a home-grown club player. Most of the time i tend to wait as long as i can with them at the club untill they start to become unhappy or there potential drop slightly then loan them quick. Is there anyway to do both or do u consider one to be more important? im currently in a save with afc telford which ive bought into the EPL so i dont have an abundance of home-grown players coming through so im having to buy them in at 16,17,18 and then having them at the club for 3 years otherwise ill end up having to leave spaces in my european squads which isnt good when your playing 50 odd games a season. Would love some ideas on this thanks guys!

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Jacl
January 2, 2014 15:31

i don’t no who it is but i was a great admirer of this site and it has been completely ruined by advertisements and iam sorry i wont be visiting anymore

Adam
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Adam
January 3, 2014 16:26

Hey,

Great guide, I just have one more question:

At what age do players reach their max CA? i.e. at what age do they stop developing their PA (provided of course the PA is higher than the CA. I’ve been looking this up for a while and can’t find an answer (I remember guides for previous FM releases said 23-24, but can’t find those and also don’t know if it’s still correct).

Thanks!
Adam

Nikola
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Nikola
January 3, 2014 16:42

I must ask this..

I looked at some players profile around the forum( wonderkids )but in my savegame (large database + whole south america continent and some countries like Portugal,Balkan Countries,Germany,Italy,England,France,Spain,Nigeria,Cameron,Senegal etc.. around 150,000 players in total) and set as playable: Spain,England,Brazil,Argentina,France,Italy and Holland their stats are below average.

I tried to start the game 3 times in a row and their basic stats are not good at all :/

Why is that?

Why i can’t have basic stats ust like are the ones from person which is testing their growth?

I ask this because if thay have lower stats,they can’t reach their full potential to have top stats in category which is needed for some positions and roles.. and for me are useless because my strategy needs top players,heh..

Can someone explain me what to do to have best starting position so that i can buy some hot prospects which turns in world beast players?

Many thanks :)

Lee
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Lee
January 4, 2014 22:17

Hi Darren,

Great article. I was just wondering how much a young players training intensity affects their development. As well as doing all of the above mentioned in the article, would you recommend ensuring all youth players have a heavy training workload to further encourage development or can this have a negative influence on them?

Jon
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Jon
January 7, 2014 13:44

Hi Darren,

Does the potential ability stars of a player vary depending on which scout/report you go by? As my assistant manager and 3 of my scouts have Phil Jones down as a 4 star potential, and 2 of my other scouts have him as a 3.5 star potential.

Similarly, if i scout young player with 3 different scouts, they all come back with different potential ratings, how can i get the most accurate? Is it the scout stats ie. Judging Ability?

Just wondering as quite often i sign someone who came with a big recommendation, and when they actually join my club they’re potential is down to 2 stars within weeks, very annoying

Thanks

Emir
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Emir
January 8, 2014 18:47

Hi,

great reading, many thanks for it.

Just a comment to:
” NEVER allow a player with lower determination to coach a tutee with higher determination as the tutee will experience a drastic drop in determination (made this mistake once and had to release the tutor on a free transfer to stop the tutoring).”

Just checked my tutees, and I observed exactly that. All attributes are going up, but determination is falling sharply. But, there is a Cancel option ;)

When you go to “More actions” in the player menu at the top right corner (for both tutor and tutee), there is “Cancel tutoring”. I was obviously more desperate to find it, as selling out 3 of my best players was hardly an alternative :)

OT:
And I’ve just found out: Don’t you ever search for players while “Youth candidates” active, at the end of the season. At least my PC slows down extremely.

Brijesh Sangani
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January 20, 2014 08:57

Well from my experiences i can say the best ages to try out everything you have is from 18-23
usually its very difficult to give game time or loan 16 year olds to clubs above their PA and ensure they are regulars,its better to try and develop them at the club based on various methods listed above
After 24 the growth slows down very much,you can expect a lot of improvement in most cases of strikers and mids,defenders probably a few years more
As Darren said keepers may develop upto 27 or even 29 depending on when their growth really accelerated

I’d suggest give your best attempts till 23 because at their peaks,you do want a finished product for your hard work. Hope you find it useful

yuster
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yuster
February 6, 2014 15:41

keep up the good work. learnt alot of this website. sitting top of the league with Darren’s 4-4-2 And The Deadly Duo tatics which i downloded from this website.

Luke Chavez
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Luke Chavez
March 2, 2014 14:00
Great advice, Darren. I need your opinion on something. First, my Januzaj used to have 4* PA in the beginning of the game. But after 4 seasons, his CA didn’t improve much (from 1* to 1.5*) and his PA decreased to 2.5*. I don’t think I overused/underused him. He shared a spot with lewis holtby, and I rotated them about evenly with holtby played in more important matches. His playing stats are good, he scored goals, made assists, and he even won golden boy award in 2016. In the 1st 3 seasons, his stats are better than kagawa. But he was very, very inconsistent, especially in his 4th season. His approach in training was never good. He was always complaining about training. I reduced his workload at some point, but then my coach reported that his development was hampered by his casual approach in training, so I increased it back. I asked him to learn from kagawa and holtby, he refused. I warned him via private chat about the training, but he responded negatively. In the end, I was forced to sell him for cheap in the summer 2017. So, what do you think about it? I don’t want the… Read more »
Ærsenius
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Ærsenius
March 18, 2014 20:01

Which is more important, quality coaching or match experience? I have a kid who has potential to be a very good second/creative striker for me but his CA is that of a leading Blue Square Premier striker. I have first class training facilities and a pretty good set of coaches. Would I be better off loaning him out to the BSP for match experience at his level or keeping him where he’ll receive far better training?

Also, a question about tutoring. If a player has pretty good determination already, is there any point in tutoring? Basically, does tutoring help the player progress to a degree where it may be worth a slight loss to determination?

murmur13
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April 2, 2014 18:26

Good Post.

Just note on the tutoring / determination thing. The tutee has all of his hidden attributes moved in the direction of the tutor, so if given an infinite number of attempts the tutee would have the exact same hidden stats and determination as the tutor.

Ambition and Professionalism have a huge impact on development. You could have a youngster with 20 determination, but 5’s in ambition and professionalism and he won’t develop well. If this is the case it’s actually better to tutor him and lose some determination in exchange for gains in the other stats.

koerangkerjaan
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April 3, 2014 01:40

hi Darren, thanks for the great job you’ve been provided us with, can u do a profile of filip jankovic of Parma? and why sometimes the minimum price you stated doesnt work out? the club keep rejecting it, or the club accepts it but the player keep refusing to move to my club, thanks

henriquemourao
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henriquemourao
April 6, 2014 22:33

Hi there! I play mostly with Portuguese teams, but this question might apply to other leagues. I know Real and Barça also have b teams that work like this. When I am managing Porto, I can send players to Porto B. This team is independent from Porto. I can pick players from my Porto B squad, but i can’t train them, they don’t have the same manager or coaches. My young players are basically sent to an affiliated club, except i can give them tutors and give them some playing time. But I don’t know if the players are getting first team experience at Porto B or plain reserve team experience, nerfing their development. I can’t make first team players available for this team. Has anyone had experience with this type of loan? I just can’t trust the b manager enough to give him my young players. Isn’t it just like sending them on loan?

henriquemourao
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henriquemourao
April 7, 2014 19:04

Hi! thanks for the answer. Porto B is currently at the portuguese second league.

HM10
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HM10
April 19, 2014 09:53
Hi, i have a new regen 16 years old, he had 93 of potential rating (with fmrte) and since he was 15 i make him somethimes play in first team to grow up faster and he play every match with the primavera team, i have all 5 stars in training and excelent facilities but somethimes his skills drops and i dont understand why, i always talk with him to train better and he is happy of training and for his future in team,even tough his Potential is going down somethimes and it not depend of what i did, this thing piss me of a lot, now i saved as always at 7 may and go in holiday till 20 (because a lot of teams arise regen in that days) and i repeat this action till i dont find a real strong regen, and everythime the abilities of that younger drops, i tried everything(lower the load of training, lift it, give him a break, ecc) but it doesn’t change, the skills drops. ps. i grew up a lot of very good regens before, and somethimes the skills drops,even is all perfect, i apologize for my bad english hope you’ll understand. So… Read more »
TheFiftyTwo
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TheFiftyTwo
April 20, 2014 12:03

Hi! Thanks for the good tips. I have signed a few promising 14-16 years old kids. They are automatically put into my under 21. Should I move them to Under 18? I’m not sure what would be the difference if I do it otherwise. Thanks

Mariano
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Mariano
November 26, 2014 14:29

Thanks for this article Darren.
I like a lot to work on rising wonderkids.
What I don´t understand is why the scouts change so much their opinion on wonderkids.
One month the give 5 stars PA, the next 2.5 Stars.
It also happens way to often that before singing a player it has 2.5 PA according to the scouts, but just the same day after singing him the scouts give him 4 stars of PA. And Im talking always of scouts with over 15 CA and PA.

Another question I can´t figure out is what factor determine a player to be labeled as a Wonderkid, specially for regens.

I notice this factors:

1.The youngster plays in a world top team in a top league
2.For real life players PA must be of -9 or over 160 of PA, for youngters I have no way to know.
3.Player must be no older than 20.

Thanks

Darren
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Darren
November 26, 2014 18:55

First off, I have never seen that high a variation in scouting reports, I feel like you are exaggerating a little with that. Ignoring that though, you will get a difference depending on how long the scout has scouted that person and their scouting ability.

Also the scout report is based on your players also, so if you sign players inbetween then that will change the reports. When you talk about the report changing after signing the player, your scouts don’t give that report, your coaches do and they do so with full knowledge of the player, unlike your scouts whom you have asked to do a single report card and not properly look into the player.

As for factors in labeling wonderkids I assume it will go off PA.

I should point out though, I really have never seen such massive differences in the reports as you are suggesting, a rating from 4.5 stars to 4 maybe but not from 5 to 2.5, I really don’t see that even been possible.

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